millershollow - Day 4

Link:167645 Sat Jan 23 00:18:24 2010

opiomancer lay in wait on a rooftop outside [info]flowen's cottage, watching for the candle light to go off. "You are mine," she thought, "you wolfy waffle loving scum!"

The candle went off, the gun fired, a hole appeared in his window and the body of [info]flowen fell lifeless to the floor.

"And you, my dear," a voice said behind opiomancer, "are mine!" Gloved hands grabbed the hunter, a knife glinted in the moonlight. "Tonight I shall have a new pair of boots from you my dear!" Blood splashed over the rooftop. But before the serial killer could finish, howls went up, breaking the killer's silence as three wolf like forms bound across the cottage tops. The killer lifted up the body of opiomancer and made it look like it was waving. The wolves pounced, as the killer slid off into the shadows. The dead body of opiomancer was torn asunder, limb from limb as the wolves ate in a frenzy! Across the street, watching, horrified look on her face was [info]slownewsday. The savagery burned into her skull.

Come morning, [info]slownewsday hung from the rafters of her cottage, noose around her neck.

SUMMARY: opiomancer the HUNTER is DEAD! [info]flowen the VILLAGER is DEAD! [info]slownewsday the VILLAGER is DEAD!

Note - I'm sorry, I didn't wait long enough apparently for the cuddlepuddle script to harvest all the votes and got yesterday's lynch incorrect. I am very sorry, but can't do anything to undo it. The last vote I saw was 6 [info]Sylvan, 5 Opiomancer. Again I apologize.
Time:2009-09-24 19:38:51 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2692061

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Children:#3 #41
#1
You were too late, [info]starryshadows. More people, myself included, might have changed our votes if only you'd given us more time.

Dammit.

opiomancer is the confirmed hunter (confirmed by no other Hunter coming forward yesterday). She was wrong about [info]sylvan, but I think yesterday made it clear that their rivalry got too personal and clouded judgement.

Let's try to keep clearer heads today, people.

The most suspicious people to me at this point are [info]evilben and [info]dragonattack, both on hunches. But I'm not ready to vote yet. [info]hungryandhollow and opiomancer, what are your reasons for suspecting gwidion82 yesterday?


Time:2009-09-24 19:39:24 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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Link:167645#2692317

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#2
First.


Time:2009-09-24 19:39:53 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2692573

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Siblings:#41
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 #3
Wrote that before the night phase ended. [info]ophiomancer is the confirmed DEAD hunter now.


Time:2009-09-24 19:42:51 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
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Link:167645#2692829

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#4
So the opiomancer the hunter killed [info]flowen, and the wolves killed opionmancer, and [info]slownewsday died for going inactive. The serial killer didn't strike!

So that one of:

- The serial killer and wolves both targetted opiomancer. Joe, could you clarify who gets the kill in that case?
- The bodyguard saved the victim of the serial killer.
- The witch saved the victim of the serial killer.


Time:2009-09-24 19:51:56 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2693341

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Children:#6
#5
[info]Smurfetts_lamb yelled out, "Well we might as well all eat. I'm out of flour but I found the pastry shop yesterday.
Anyone up for some [info]duck?
I've made [info]duck eggs florentine, [info]duck confit, peeking [info]duck thighs and wings, and my favorite foie gras salad.



Time:2009-09-24 19:53:27 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2694109

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Children:#8
#6
trying to fatten us up?


Time:2009-09-24 19:55:24 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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Link:167645#2694365

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 #7
the serial killer and the wolves both targeted opiomancer . . . poor hunter :)


Time:2009-09-24 19:55:36 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2694621

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#8
NO, I just have a feeling we need a good meal. Plus one [info]duck and a fews eggs for 18 people does not make much food.


Time:2009-09-24 20:00:16 GMT
Author:[info]sonicbunny
Subject:wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2695389

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#9
I have to say, and this may jinx me, but I do have to say, thank you [info]Lorriet for the advice. This is the first time I've ever made it to day four in a Millers Hollow game!

The advice by the way was, "shut up and you'll live longer you big dork!" or words to that effect. :)

So... Yeah, regarding voting. I think yesterday was pretty much a wash. I don't see any evidence pointing at anyone in particular at this point.

Giant Laser is doing that leadership thing. [info]Stride is doing her usual list thing. [info]Evilben is doing the usual [info]evilben "not a wolf thing".

So... Should we elect a Sheriff now?


Time:2009-09-24 20:01:21 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:Status
Link:167645#2695901

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 #10
LIVING:

[info]cambler
[info]dragonattack
[info]evilben
[info]faymar
[info]flipperchaz
[info]giantlaser
[info]gnatdbug
[info]gwydion82
[info]hungryandhollow
[info]logophylia1
[info]lorriet
[info]maniakes
[info]ragnarok_now
[info]rustymaggot
[info]snoopyh42
[info]slojae
[info]smurfetts_lamb
[info]sonicbunny
[info]stride

DEAD:
[info]gorillashaman: Villager
[info]myshanter: Villager
[info]cuddlycthulhu: Cupid
[info]baronlaw: Ralph [info]Nader
[info]maniakes: Villager
[info]chessiekitty: Werewolf
[info]ophiomancer: Hunter
[info]slownewsday: Villager
[info]flowen: Villager
[info]starryshadows: Villager, lover
[info]sylvan: Villager, lover

Special roles remaining:
Wolves (x3)
Seer
Witch
Afflicted
Bodyguard
Martyr
Ghost
Serial Killer


Time:2009-09-24 20:01:43 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2696157

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Children:#163
#11
wow.... five innocents in one day/night... we're not doing so hot here guys... the only wolf outed was killed by the cereal killer.

for now, since he seems to want to know if he gets credit for the kill i'd vote [info]giantlaser as either wolf or killer. that may change when i get off work tonight...

which i have to take off for soon, dont take my sudden silence (i posted alot the past couple days) as anything suspicous


Time:2009-09-24 20:03:47 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2696669

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 #12
Ha-HAHAHAHA! Leader? No, silly man. I have merely perfected Prof. Dr. [info]Giantlaser's No-Sleep-Needed capsules! I shall post ... when I like!


Time:2009-09-24 20:17:13 GMT
Author:[info]creepyduck
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2698205

Parent:#8
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Children:#16
#13
QUACK!

As you hear the familiar quack of the [info]duck, you scan around the center of town and see the [info]duck grinning evilly at you. It waves a feathered wing in your direction, other wing brandishing a large buther's knife. Then you wonder, if the [info]duck is still alive, then what exactly are you eating?

QUACK!


Time:2009-09-24 20:18:49 GMT
Author:[info]ragnarok_now
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2698461

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 #14
Cheater


Time:2009-09-24 20:24:33 GMT
Author:[info]ragnarok_now
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Link:167645#2698717

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#15
If the Seer has at least one wolf and a couple confirmed people they may want to consider coming out so we can start saving them five times (and so the killer doesn't accidentally target them).

Based on past games though the Seer likely spied on people who have already died. This is one of the reasons why it is not bad policy to target the quiet players for confirmation.


Time:2009-09-24 20:24:35 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2698973

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#16
I did not say the [info]duck was you. I just said I cooked a [info]duck.

How is your family doing?

Mwahahahaha.


Time:2009-09-24 20:27:11 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2699229

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#17
Are you trying to bring out the wolfs with the sexy booty icon?


Time:2009-09-24 20:29:02 GMT
Author:[info]gnatdbug
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2699997

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#18
GAME OFF

Can we get a consenses to only use SFW icons please?

[info]Cambler, usually I would appreciate your artwork, but if I am to miller's hollow at work, bare ass peaks are a no-no.

GAME ON


Time:2009-09-24 20:29:30 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2700509

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Children:#20
#19
I've been told it works.


Time:2009-09-24 20:31:37 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2700765

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#20
One of these days, if we survive the wolves, I need you to photo me.
Everyone loves a natural redhead right?


Time:2009-09-24 20:37:28 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2701533

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#21
Here are my list of questions for the day:

a) Why did the bodyguard not save our hunter? That was the most telegraphed kill in the world. I'm going to have to assume it was either doubt, inexperience, or possibly just bad luck on the timing. I'm really hoping it was the latter.

b) [info]Giantlaser, what caused you to be suspicious of me? I posted early that I had doubts about Gwydion, and he has yet to do anything to dissuade me of them.

c) Granting that, I'm not 100% sure we need to kill him, either. The fact that he did not claim to be a special to save himself makes me slightly less suspicious. And now there's actual information to go off of (somewhat)

I'm going to start the day with a couple of new concerns. [info]Snoopyh42's lack of willingness to switch his vote for the good of the village concerns me. Also, I've got a sneaking suspicion about [info]Stride. I'm a little hesitant to target her given her absence, but by the same token, [info]abstaining on a close vote like that is unlike her. Yes she could have not had the time to go through and make an informed decision, but she SHOULD have had hunches from before, and her unwillingness to commit makes me more suspicious. I'm going to wait on voting for now, but I'd love to get some dialogue going.


Time:2009-09-24 20:48:06 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2702045

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 #22
My suspicion of you is only a hunch. Looking back on past things you've said, nothing is incriminating. Just a tendency to accuse others. Which is par for this particular course.


Time:2009-09-24 20:51:10 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2702557

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Children:#47
#23
The SEER does not have 5 days of safety with the BODYGUARD-MARTYR-BODYGUARD-WITCH-BODYGUARD plan. On day 4, the WITCH can only save the SEER from the WOLVES. The SERIAL KILLER could, at that time, target the SEER. The SEER isn't as big a threat to the SERIAL KILLER as the HUNTER was, but that's still a risk.


Time:2009-09-24 20:52:04 GMT
Author:[info]snoopyh42
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2702813

Parent:#21
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Children:(none)
 #24
I'm sorry, I was at work this morning and only had time to post my musings from the morning, not to review all that had happened since 11pm Pacific last night.


Time:2009-09-24 20:55:45 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2703325

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 #25
I've been told by a number of natural redheads that one of their greatest regrets is not being able to prove it nearly often enough ;)


Time:2009-09-24 20:57:07 GMT
Author:[info]gwydion82
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2703581

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#26
actually, I was AFK when all the votes turned my direction. But, I wouldn't have argued. I'm a non special villager, and willing to die for the good of the team. The seer is probably good to come out tomorrow, unless the bodyguard, martyr, or serial killer dies, as we'll only have a max of about 5 turns left. Well, with players like [info]sonicbunny excited to make it to today, no wolves in sight, and me getting through by a mere glitch in the system, I'll volunteer for lynching. At least that way, the seer is safe from us for one more day. Good luck, everyone.



Time:2009-09-24 20:58:21 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2703837

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#27
Fair enough, you asked nicely, and I'm sure those are snickerdoodle cookies I smell!


Time:2009-09-24 21:02:07 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2704093

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#28
Oh my. I think I need time to think about all this.


Time:2009-09-24 21:03:32 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2704349

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Siblings:#12 #53 #61
Children:#42
#29
This is the first time I've ever made it to day four in a Millers Hollow game!

Well, we'll have to rectify that, won't we?

Vote [info]sonicbunny.



Just kidding. ;-)

Unvote [info]sonicbunny.


Time:2009-09-24 21:07:47 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2706141

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#30
Right, and there's a serial killer on the loose.

*ponder*


Time:2009-09-24 21:11:41 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2707421

Parent:#26
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#31
This is either a very honest or very wolfy ploy.


Time:2009-09-24 21:20:04 GMT
Author:[info]gnatdbug
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2707933

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 #32
Thank you very much.


Time:2009-09-24 21:20:48 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2708189

Parent:#30
Siblings:(none)
Children:#40
#33
Those who accuse tend to get killed.


Time:2009-09-24 21:20:49 GMT
Author:[info]sonicbunny
Subject:heh
Link:167645#2708445

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Children:#39
#34
So, here we are, and you're the last player with a name that starts with "F" and has two syllables.

Oh sure, [info]gwydion82 is acting suspicious, but really, why bow to logic when you can play up a dead mans joke.

Vote [info]Faymar


Time:2009-09-24 21:25:01 GMT
Author:[info]gwydion82
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2708701

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 #35
I just wish I could do something useful. Without any special powers, all I can do is hope someone else makes a mistake, and hope that I or someone else notices it.


Time:2009-09-24 21:25:53 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2708957

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#36
Seriously with so much gossip, accusations and mud slinging back and forth yesterday. I ask why would the serial killer not expect the wolves to go after opionmancer last night. Did he waste a kill or just not trust the wolves to do their job.


Time:2009-09-24 22:12:14 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2709469

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 #37
Yesterday was kind of a cluster-f*ck.

I, too, don't get why the body guard didn't guard Opi. And, sadly, I don't know that we're any better of than Day 1 as far a leads go.

Maybe look at who Opi mentioned as possibles based on snooping in someone's LJ...the wolves may have felt safe because none of the suspicious people were wolves?

Just grasping at straws here...


Time:2009-09-24 22:19:36 GMT
Author:[info]stride
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2709981

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Children:#79
#38
About [info]abstaining: 1) I wanted to vote something so at least it wouldn't look like a no-show. 2) Somewhere between last night and this morning there were about 100 new messages to read and I ran out of time to sort through the messages. All I knew was [info]ophiomancer was claiming to be the hunter, and whether the gun is pointed at you or not, one should not be trying to lynch uncontested named villagers.

But in the spirit of voting for someone, I vote [info]snoopyh42 so he won't feel ignored.

Also, please feel free to lynch me/eat me/kill me/etc. while I am gone. I signed up to fully play this game, and that should not stop game activities from going on.


Time:2009-09-24 22:39:48 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:Re: heh
Link:167645#2711517

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Children:(none)
 #39
but but but


Time:2009-09-24 22:40:59 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2711773

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Children:#62 #68
#40
But it's got to be better than letting my family get eaten!

Vote [info]smurfetts_lamb


Time:2009-09-24 22:46:45 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2712029

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 #41
I had no reasons whatsoever. About 30 minutes before the day's end, I got online to discover the whole we're-lover-villagers thing. At that point, three people had already voted for Gwydion. He was the only one we had even a chance of getting the lynch on to in the short time remaining, so I bandwagoned onto him.


Time:2009-09-24 22:56:27 GMT
Author:[info]flipperchaz
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2712285

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Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #42
Weird, cuddlepuddle registered both the vote and unvote, but it still lists me as voting. To be ultra-safe:

Unvote [info]sonicbunny.
I [info]abstain.

Gotta be careful when you play around like that.



Time:2009-09-24 22:59:43 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2712541

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Children:#44
#43
Personally I think he wasted the kill.


Time:2009-09-24 23:04:46 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2713053

Parent:#43
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #44
It's not a waste, it's an overcaution. Neither were convinced that the other one could be relied on, so they both made sure it was done. Some mercy, considering the brutality.


Time:2009-09-24 23:38:29 GMT
Author:[info]gnatdbug
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2713821

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#45
VOTE snoopyh24

Time to try another tact for me.

Why are you not not a villager?



Time:2009-09-24 23:46:44 GMT
Author:[info]snoopyh42
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2714333

Parent:#45
Siblings:(none)
Children:#50
#46
That's an interesting question, coupled with a convenient misspelling of my name. Remind me to thank [info]stride for putting me on the board.

I have no more proof than anyone else that I am a plain vanilla villager, not even a special worth protecting. If you feel that dogpiling on me will serve the good of the village, then there's nothing I can say or do to deter you from that course of action.


Time:2009-09-24 23:47:15 GMT
Author:[info]ragnarok_now
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2714589

Parent:#23
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #47
The Seer isn't a threat to the Killer at all. The Killer can be killed by the wolves and cannot win as long as they are alive. The Seer has no ability to affect or identify the Killer.

The Killer could take out the Seer as you say, but if they do they have double chance per day of dying (lynched or eaten). I'm not sure the extra chaos generated would be worth being twice as likely to die.


Time:2009-09-24 23:51:04 GMT
Author:[info]evilben
Subject:Lunch (dinner) time run down.
Link:167645#2714845

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Children:#49 #54 #76 #78
#48
My reason for gwydion was a hunch and the'd already been voted for. I was just trying to divert votes away from the possible (now confirmed) hunter and lovers. It was almost [info]Stride. Nothing personal, just trying to save lives. Too bad I failed.

On a suspicious note, in the 11th hour, logophilia refused to switch their vote to gwydion even to save the hunter and lovers. It was the way they put it that struck me. I'd link to it, but I'm on my iPhone and I have no clue how to make that work. Anyways, that implies wolves, lovers, or strong OOC loyalties. I won't cast a vote just yet. I'll wait for more discussion.

Anything to say, Logophilia?


Side note, I'll be largely unreachable till after 9:30 or so. Not being quiet, just working.


Time:2009-09-24 23:54:59 GMT
Author:[info]evilben
Subject:Re: Lunch (dinner) time run down.
Link:167645#2715101

Parent:#48
Siblings:#54 #76 #78
Children:(none)
 #49
Gah. Forgot to say, "and we know they aren't lovers.". Stupid tiny keyboard making me rush things.


Time:2009-09-25 01:10:39 GMT
Author:[info]gnatdbug
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2717149

Parent:#46
Siblings:(none)
Children:#51
#50
Spelling gets me again.

VOTE [info]STRIDE

She's evil. Has been a wolf. And since we like to pick on defenseless villager's this game...

Prolly that AND a wolf.


Time:2009-09-25 01:41:35 GMT
Author:[info]stride
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2717405

Parent:#50
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #51
Not a wolf. And not necessarily evil - my random links just alleviate boredom. :)


Time:2009-09-25 02:09:49 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2717661

Parent:#21
Siblings:#22 #24 #26 #38 #59
Children:(none)
 #52
Some interesting math. We're at 19 people left in the village. Ignoring the Afflicted, we have 9 people whose cards don't read Villager. 10 who do. We still have the witch's kill (and save), so we're in pretty good shape, especially if the seer has useful information, one way or another. Confirmed wolves may not be as useful as confirmed villagers, depending on the endgame. Those are facts, not conjectures.

I think I'll end this with a Vote [info]Stride. I'm kinda flattered that both of my suspicions were met with some support. But I think I'll go this way, worry about the experienced player, and come bck tomorrow.


Time:2009-09-25 02:42:22 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2718173

Parent:#9
Siblings:#12 #29 #61
Children:#57
#53
I 2nd the sheriff vote.


Time:2009-09-25 02:54:24 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:Re: Lunch (dinner) time run down.
Link:167645#2718429

Parent:#48
Siblings:#49 #76 #78
Children:(none)
 #54
As I told him at the time, I found that fairly suspicious myself. Enough to vote for him? Not necessarily... but it does get me looking in his direction.


Time:2009-09-25 02:56:12 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2718685

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #60 #63 #64 #70 #74 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:(none)
 #55
I'm somewhat suspicious of [info]Stride myself, as she's been very quiet. I am wary of a prejudice there, though, since a) I've been tricked by her before and b) I've been tricked by quiet people playing the too-busy-IRL card. And frankly, considering my track record, my suspicion of [info]Stride is probably the best indicator that she's not a wolf :P


Time:2009-09-25 03:31:16 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2718941

Parent:#26
Siblings:#31
Children:(none)
 #56
since you dont plan to last the night, heres some advice that might help the rest of us. talk alot. spout every idea, theory, or suspicion. the more pressure everyone is under the bigger the mistakes. the bigger the mistakes the harder it is to worm out from under what you slip up on. the game is about studying behavior. the more data the better picture we get. the better the picture the worse the wolves chances. think of it this way, if we had had more info sooner we could have voted with more confidence and saved alot of lives.


Time:2009-09-25 04:57:41 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2719197

Parent:#53
Siblings:(none)
Children:#58
#57
i dont think that was a first vote. youd be first, if im not mistaken.


Time:2009-09-25 05:00:26 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2719453

Parent:#57
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #58
crap. I guess it should be done before too many more villagers get killed.


Time:2009-09-25 05:09:20 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2719709

Parent:#21
Siblings:#22 #24 #26 #38 #52
Children:(none)
 #59
another option could be that the bodyguard was away from the computer and didnt know what was happening.

did gwydion know the vote was swinging that close to him? that might be another case of being away from the computer.

this game is alot more fun when your unemployed.


Time:2009-09-25 05:33:12 GMT
Author:[info]evilben
Subject:...
Link:167645#2719965

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #63 #64 #70 #74 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#66
#60
I had a tirade planned. I'm no longer in the mood. Life intervined.

As per my plan, VOTE [info]LOGOPHYLIA1.

I will not defend it. Agree or don't. Lynch me or don't. Eat me or don't. Tonight, I do not care. I shall make the decision weather or not to drop out or not tomorrow when I am sober.


Time:2009-09-25 05:35:37 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:Re: wow, the carnage
Link:167645#2720221

Parent:#9
Siblings:#12 #29 #53
Children:(none)
 #61
too bad she didnt give [info]sylvan the same advice.

for future games ill give this advice. if your lover wont shut up, smack them.


Time:2009-09-25 05:41:43 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2720477

Parent:#40
Siblings:#68
Children:(none)
 #62
it seems to me that this food theme is more than just flavor text. hahaha pun realized the moment i said it.


Time:2009-09-25 06:19:44 GMT
Author:[info]sonicbunny
Subject:hmm
Link:167645#2720733

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #64 #70 #74 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#67 #81
#63
So [info]evilben has decided to vote [info]logophylia1.

I've agreed with him about needing a sheriff and I think he might have jumped onto something with his vote... So, in the spirit of not wasting my vote.

Unvote [info]faymar

vote [info]logophylia1



Time:2009-09-25 06:34:05 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2720989

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #70 #74 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#65
#64

Vote [info]giantlaser


Time:2009-09-25 07:26:57 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2721245

Parent:#64
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #65
please note: I am going to sleep now. i will attempt to wake up before the deadline, but I'm not 100% sure it's gonna happen. Hopefully the game doesn't get drastically weird in the morning :D


Time:2009-09-25 07:43:04 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:Re: ...
Link:167645#2721501

Parent:#60
Siblings:(none)
Children:#69
#66
are you suggesting that you're going to suicide?

I'll wait to see if you do wolfie....

as it is I'm sticking to my guns with [info]giantlaser...

a)he's tricky enough to be furry or cruncy (cereal killer, i like to stick to two sylabbles)

b) it sounds like he wants credit for the killing of ophimancer



Time:2009-09-25 08:11:23 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:Re: hmm
Link:167645#2722013

Parent:#63
Siblings:#81
Children:(none)
 #67
i still think [info]giantlaser is either furry or crunchy... since he wanted to figure out who got credit for slaying/eating [info]ophiomancer...



Time:2009-09-25 08:53:04 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2722269

Parent:#40
Siblings:#62
Children:#71
#68
You vote has not been recorded. You must use a lowercase "vote name" for it to work, and the username must be exact.


Time:2009-09-25 08:55:25 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:Re: ...
Link:167645#2722525

Parent:#66
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #69
Please re-read my post. I wasn't asking for credit, I was asking what happens when both killing groups target the same person. It is important that we understand if the witch or bodyguard are involved when one less kill happens overnight.


Time:2009-09-25 08:58:45 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2722781

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #74 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#82
#70
I don't like voting when there is very little evidence, but that is something that this game is always short on. Also, I like it even less when two people vote against me. I am a villager. I don't even have hair in my armpits. Totally non-wolfy. But I'm not going to vote against others just because they voted against me.

vote [info]logophylia1


Time:2009-09-25 09:07:04 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2723037

Parent:#68
Siblings:(none)
Children:#72
#71
Oh, I thought capitals were ok!

Hmm, it's highlighted on [info]millershollow - Day 4 - 2009-09-24 12:24:00 which I thought meant it counted?

To be sure:

vote [info]smurfetts_lamb

Because personally I think he is planning to eat us all.

But then [info]flowen said he was going to wear us all as coats and he turned out not to be the serial killer, just a normal sociopath.

:/



Time:2009-09-25 11:29:11 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2723293

Parent:#71
Siblings:(none)
Children:#73
#72
I probably was looking at an out-of-date feed from the cuddlepuddle summary. It lags by 30-45 min.


Time:2009-09-25 13:31:42 GMT
Author:[info]faymar
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2723549

Parent:#72
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #73
Ah, ok. Just wanted to make sure I understood it correctly.

Thanks for watching out for me. :)


Time:2009-09-25 13:59:06 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2723805

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #70 #75 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#104
#74
Well, I guess I'll vote [info]logophylia1 for now. I should be back before the end of the day and I'm pretty open to changing my vote.


Time:2009-09-25 14:09:12 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2724061

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #70 #74 #77 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:(none)
 #75
VOTE [info]ABSTAIN


Time:2009-09-25 14:43:36 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:Re: Lunch (dinner) time run down.
Link:167645#2724829

Parent:#48
Siblings:#49 #54 #78
Children:(none)
 #76
Sure - i definitely have something to say :)

As I stated - i don;t kill blindly hoping for luck to carry it through - I didn't see the current dogpile on Gwy as having a solid basis (no evidence to back it - just a sudden rush to lynch) - so I didn't add my vote that way.

I DEFINITELY voted to save Ophi - and NOT to kill Syl as I thought the lover claim might be valid.

I DEFINITLEY tried to save all the folks who died yesterday - check the votes :)


Time:2009-09-25 15:00:38 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2725085

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #70 #74 #75 #88 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#80 #84 #85
#77
OK - have finally made my way back to the computer - to discover I'm the lynching target.

Honestly, as I was unable to post till now, it doesn't surprise me, but it's disturbing to see my name on the rope with not even a THEORY why it's up there ...

As per usual - I've been looking at the data, and I'm at a bit of a loss.

I'm ... suprised the BGard didnt protect Oph, unless the BGard was convinced she was a wolf or the serial killer.

I'm sad that the seer has not been able to gain enough info to come forward, but it's not that surprising - considering the high body count over the last several days and the still large number of folks remaining - it's possible all there scryings have died, and unlikely they have found a wolf.

It might be too late considering how poorly late voting went last time, but I VOTE [info]dragonattack.

I'm pained to vote on my gut - but it seems that allthough you present information freely, it's not the most well thought out information, and you seem reticent to change your position once it's shown the data is poor.

I beleieve I'm an asset to the town, please don't lynch me on a whim :)


Time:2009-09-25 15:04:19 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:Re: Lunch (dinner) time run down.
Link:167645#2725341

Parent:#48
Siblings:#49 #54 #76
Children:(none)
 #78
Oh - and the other reason I didn't vote Gwy at the 11th hour was that I could see that even before hungry's last vote - the WORST that would happen would have been a tie - which I figured would give folks a chance to say WHY they wanted Gwy killed off.


Time:2009-09-25 15:22:50 GMT
Author:[info]snoopyh42
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2725597

Parent:#38
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #79
Gosh, thanks. This is the kind of help I DON'T need.

vote [info]stride


Time:2009-09-25 15:37:59 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2725853

Parent:#77
Siblings:#84 #85
Children:(none)
 #80
I have lots to say in response to this, but I think that ad hominem attacks really get us nowhere. All my opinions are in fact well thought out, and whether or not I can communicate that is my failing, apparently. I'm not going to pile on because I agree you may be an asset to the village, but you've chosen poorly in targeting me.


Time:2009-09-25 15:44:49 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:Re: hmm
Link:167645#2726109

Parent:#63
Siblings:#67
Children:#83
#81
This post here really strikes me the wrong way. It seems to be saying "Look, I'm going to pile on, but not because I've done any thought, but because someone else said so." Tomorrow, I expect to see "we lynched the x? Oh, but it was BEN's idea!" where x is anything from villager to seer. Just seems irresponsible in some ways, and not at all helpful to the village.


Time:2009-09-25 15:53:09 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2726365

Parent:#70
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #82
Why then did you vote for me ?


Time:2009-09-25 15:55:30 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:Re: hmm
Link:167645#2726621

Parent:#81
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #83
Well, as it looks now, there will DEFINTELY be a lynched townsperson tomorrow as I am one ...


Time:2009-09-25 16:00:00 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2726877

Parent:#77
Siblings:#80 #85
Children:#87
#84
What's the difference between voting on a "whim" and voting on a "hunch"?

For me, you seemed suspicious with your really long arguments against a minor point that didn't really serve a purpose (in my eyes). It seemed to convolute things...

That being said, I haven't voted yet, but will in the next half hour or so...


Time:2009-09-25 16:13:10 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2727133

Parent:#77
Siblings:#80 #84
Children:#86
#85
Curious what the actual difference in voting on one's "gut" and voting on a "whim" is?

I was suspicious of you yesterday because your arguments seemed to be more confusing than helpful, on some point of fact that really didn't matter. At least in my opinion...

That being said, I haven't voted yet, but will soon.


Time:2009-09-25 16:14:22 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2727389

Parent:#85
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #86
erf...ignore this second one, I didn't see the first one posted, so thought my computer ate it...



Time:2009-09-25 16:15:31 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2727645

Parent:#84
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #87
Well, a whim is something that takes you as amusing or just seems interesting.

A hunch is when you have a feeling that something is true, but don't have enough eveidence to support it beyond doubt.

Sorry I convoluted things (I think in the end that I did), but my problem was that folks were stating thing with certainty that didn't seem to be in any way certain to me. In the end, I thought that the opposition to my arguements had established that though NOT unassailable, thier arguements had enough merit to be used as a foundation fro voting, and I voted to that effect.

I am feeling less than sure about my vote right now, and may withdraw it.


Time:2009-09-25 16:17:49 GMT
Author:[info]gwydion82
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2727901

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #70 #74 #75 #77 #89 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#90
#88
I don't think [info]logophylia1 is a wolf, but that's just a hunch. the only thing I have to go on right now is that I think that [info]sonicbunny is only still alive because he's a wolf. Not a lot to go on, I know, but vote [info]sonicbunny


Time:2009-09-25 16:37:20 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2728157

Parent:(none)
Siblings:#1 #2 #4 #5 #9 #10 #11 #15 #18 #21 #28 #36 #37 #45 #48 #55 #60 #63 #64 #70 #74 #75 #77 #88 #119 #127 #155 #157 #159 #164
Children:#91 #92 #93 #94 #107 #123
#89
OK - I'm gogin to lay out all the cards.

I'm the WITCH.

This declaration means that I will die tomorrow night (PROBABLY) via wolf attack if not lynched today.

I will save my life tonight (if not lynched) so even if I'm not lynched, don't BGuard me (I doubt the serial killer will try to kill me off at this point).

This is the only thing I think I can do to save the town a little bit of headache. Not sure if I should have used my save earlier - but then I'm new to the game.


Time:2009-09-25 16:37:44 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2728413

Parent:#88
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #90
I'm quite amused at the fact that I may be taking voting cues from someone I very nearly got voted off the village, but I'm considering backing the [info]Sonicbunny vote. I'll switch off [info]stride, to [info]sonicbunny, if it means giving logo more time.


Time:2009-09-25 16:42:45 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2728669

Parent:#89
Siblings:#92 #93 #94 #107 #123
Children:#95 #100 #120
#91
I certainly hope you are the witch, else you'll be poisoned tonight.

unvote [info]logophylia1

Might as well join the dogpile.

vote [info]stride


Time:2009-09-25 16:42:54 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2728925

Parent:#89
Siblings:#91 #93 #94 #107 #123
Children:#98 #99
#92
Nope, nothing thus far has called for the use of your save. I wish you had waited approximately 2 more minutes before the reveal, but such is life :P You have two more nights to live, as you've said. Possibly 3, depending on how much fun we feel like having with psychology. There are now two options: 1) Bodyguard watches you tonight. 2) They don't. If 1), then that branch leads to two other options a) The wolves expect it, and thus try and kill someone else, or b) they try and kill you anyways. We can do some fun shell game stuff, depending on what we think people are likely to do. With good timing, you could live for a good long while. Bodyguard, please pay attention, as it ultimately is your call how this mess goes down.


Time:2009-09-25 16:43:45 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2729181

Parent:#89
Siblings:#91 #92 #94 #107 #123
Children:(none)
 #93
Also, you are one of the sure ways we can kill the serial killer, so I strongly urge the bodyguard to protect you.


Time:2009-09-25 16:44:56 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2729437

Parent:#89
Siblings:#91 #92 #93 #107 #123
Children:#96 #101 #147
#94
ooooooooook. well, uh... vote [info]abstain, and now who the hell do I vote for? I feel like after all the deaths yesterday, I'm back to Day One, grasping at straws to find a reason to vote for someone.

Also, I've never been a Witch, so I don't know, but... can you use your potion to save yourself? And does it save you from both? I mean, you want to be very clear on how it works, if you're trusting your life to it.

Also also, do we have anyone else for the bodyguard to protect? Doesn't it make sense for them to protect you against both targets, and save your potion?


Time:2009-09-25 16:45:26 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2729693

Parent:#91
Siblings:#100 #120
Children:#140
#95
Ugh... all this use of the word dogpile is really irking me :P Bandwagon is generally used for the tide of votes, dogpile is the implication that there's a canine element involved... As of now, I'm running more and more in circles about certain people. Laser's activity today has been much different than his involvement in previous days. Not saying it's a bad thing, just noting it.


Time:2009-09-25 16:46:38 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2729949

Parent:#94
Siblings:#101 #147
Children:#97
#96
The potion doesn't work against the serial killer. The bodyguard does.


Time:2009-09-25 16:48:22 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2730205

Parent:#96
Siblings:(none)
Children:(none)
 #97
Ok, good to know.


Time:2009-09-25 16:50:08 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2730461

Parent:#92
Siblings:#99
Children:(none)
 #98
Oh, the other thing is that you may get more life than that, if someone more important comes forward. We can get you to approximately 7 days of life, if you can get tacked on to the seer combo. We might want to use the seer next turn, simply to get the information out, and add some more life to our witch. Not saying it's definite, but if the seer has useful information, it'd be exceptional, assuming they live out the night. Or, as is always the case, I could be running smokescreen for myself, and you cannot drink the wine in front of me.


Time:2009-09-25 16:50:21 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2730717

Parent:#92
Siblings:#98
Children:#102 #105
#99
I REALY wanted to wait as long as possible, but apparently I jumped the gun :(

Bodyguard should NOT protect me tonight - if the wolves attack i'll know it and can save myself. If the serial killer decides to kill me ... well, then that's unfortunate, and NOT in Killer's interest either.

The wolves may NOT attack me tonight, as they would waste thier attack, in which case I'll still hold onto my save for the seer.


Time:2009-09-25 16:51:42 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2730973

Parent:#91
Siblings:#95 #120
Children:(none)
 #100
We have enough time and active commenters that we could probably discuss this and pick someone to vote for rather than dogpile... but I don't know that any of us have any clues to go on, so I'm not sure we could find a better target.


Time:2009-09-25 16:52:51 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2731229

Parent:#94
Siblings:#96 #147
Children:#103
#101
I can save from the wolves, not the killer.

The bodygaurd is ACTUALLY better off protecting someone else - the chances are good that even a blind protect will save a villager, and will lessen the threat of the afflicted by a wee bit.

If the wolves attack me I WILL use my potion to save myself - this would be a waste if the BGuard protects me as well.


Time:2009-09-25 16:52:59 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2731485

Parent:#99
Siblings:#105
Children:(none)
 #102
But why wouldn't the bodyguard protect you? You're our only confirmed villager. There's no one else for them to protect.


Time:2009-09-25 16:54:38 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2731741

Parent:#101
Siblings:(none)
Children:#113 #116
#103
I disagree. The ability to save your potion seems more important to me than the chance of protecting a villager. But then, it's not really up to us, is it? :P

Also, I thought that if the bodyguard protects you, you never get attacked, so you never use the potion. Could be wrong though.


Time:2009-09-25 16:56:42 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2731997

Parent:#74
Siblings:(none)
Children:#106
#104
vote [info]giantlaser


Time:2009-09-25 16:57:19 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2732253

Parent:#99
Siblings:#102
Children:#108
#105
Nah, you did just fine. Any longer, and people may not have had time to react. It was the fact that I was in the middle of posting to try and save you :p That was it.

It is my opinion that it IS in the serial killer's interest to kill you, and therefore worth the bodyguard paying attention to you. Bodyguard, you get to make the call.


Time:2009-09-25 16:58:42 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2732509

Parent:#104
Siblings:(none)
Children:#110
#106
btw, we ruled against edits. not really a big deal when all you do is bold your text, but JSYK.


Time:2009-09-25 16:59:07 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2732765

Parent:#89
Siblings:#91 #92 #93 #94 #123
Children:#112
#107
Well, crap.


Time:2009-09-25 16:59:30 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2733021

Parent:#105
Siblings:(none)
Children:#109
#108
Why should the Serial Killer kill me ?

My poison is a sure-shot, true, but if we are sure enough who the SKiller is, why wouldn't we lynch them ?


Time:2009-09-25 17:01:17 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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 #109
Also, the logic of "the wolves won't eat me, and waste their kill" is flawed. They know you have that potion. It's going to get used sometime, and they're unlikely to be deterred by its brandishing :P

The Serial Killer would kill you, because you are good for the village. He wants to be the only one alive. He'll kill you, now or later, it's mostly the same to him.


Time:2009-09-25 17:02:23 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#110
Yeah, I only did that to get the bolding right. I wouldn't edit for content.


Time:2009-09-25 17:03:04 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2733789

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#111
Is there a reason you're voting [info]GiantLaser over [info]Stride?


Time:2009-09-25 17:03:53 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#112
Sorry ...


Time:2009-09-25 17:06:13 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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 #113
I agree with H&H. If the bodyguard saves you, you don't even get the chance for your potion to be used, so it's not wasted.


Time:2009-09-25 17:08:06 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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#114
Yes.


Time:2009-09-25 17:08:07 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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 #115
I'm curious as well.


Time:2009-09-25 17:08:13 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#116
.... damn - can't find anything to prove or disprove this.

OK - my current take is that we ask Joe for clarification on this point before BGuard does his/her save.

IF the BGuard's save causes me NOT to waste my potion, then BGuard feel free to SAVE me.

IF I save and BGuard saves means to potion is lost, then the BGuard should save someone else, as I will use my potion to save myself OR tonight's villager target and thus prove my witchiness as well as one other person's villagrness.

Thoughts ?


Time:2009-09-25 17:08:20 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
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 #117
I was just lamenting the loss of the only hunch I had. :P


Time:2009-09-25 17:09:30 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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#118
Given your brevity, I take it you don't want to share with the rest of us...


Time:2009-09-25 17:09:34 GMT
Author:[info]lorriet
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 #119
vote [info]stride...mostly just to make sure that Logo is off the chopping block.


Time:2009-09-25 17:10:40 GMT
Author:[info]stride
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 #120
unvote [info]snoopyh42 and vote [info]giantlaser. I am not a wolf and the use of bad puns must stop!


Time:2009-09-25 17:11:01 GMT
Author:[info]cambler
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Link:167645#2736349

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#121
Can't talk. Eating. Mouth is full.


Time:2009-09-25 17:11:06 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2736605

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#122
Could you elaborate somewhat? I'm happy to change my vote, as I have no reasons to vote [info]Stride, but i'd like some discussion first.


Time:2009-09-25 17:13:03 GMT
Author:[info]gwydion82
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 #123
if you are the witch, you should let the body guard guard you, and only use the potion if still attacked. don't plan it out, so the wolves have to keep trying to attack you to get you to use the potion. If they know you're going to use it today, they can just attack you, you use it, and then it's no good to anyone. every day that we can keep someone alive ups our chances. The serial killer shouldn't want you to go out until you've used the poison, I would think, but it depends on how they're playing it, but just in case, if he knows, he can just attack you when he knows you're bodyguardless.


Time:2009-09-25 17:13:23 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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#124
Same here.


Time:2009-09-25 17:23:28 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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#125
The bodyguard save happens before the witch healing potion. ie if the bodyguard saves the victim, there is no victim for the witch to heal. if the martyr saves the victim, well there is obviously a victim for the witch to save, it's just not the original one.


Time:2009-09-25 17:24:47 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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#126
and just a heads up, you just voted :)


Time:2009-09-25 17:25:30 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
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#127
Well since [info]Stride is not able to reply and [info]Giantlaser is probably in bed.

Now would be a great time for the Seer to speak up.

Seer, you out there???


Time:2009-09-25 17:25:33 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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Link:167645#2738397

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 #128
I'd like to know the logic behind this - I'm fine voting for someone other than dragon, but I don't vote blindly.

In fact unvote [info]dragonattack vote [info]abstain


Time:2009-09-25 17:25:45 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
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#129
sounds like you may be the seer and don't want to out yourself yet...



Time:2009-09-25 17:27:50 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#130
OK, so then we hope for BGuard to actually, Y'know, GUARD me ... if not i'll use my potion.

NOW - thoughts - now that I'm outed, should i use my potion to save someone ELSE the wolves target tonight, thus giving us 2 known villagers ? Or save it ?


Time:2009-09-25 17:28:01 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2739165

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 #131
oh shit, hahahaha, thanks for the heads up. vote [info]abstain


Time:2009-09-25 17:29:22 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#132
DO NOT OUT SEER, unless you have at least one known wolf at this point, it's useless.

Don't you think Lamb ?


Time:2009-09-25 17:29:55 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2739677

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#133
Two known villagers? Who said anything about two known villagers?


Time:2009-09-25 17:30:54 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
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Link:167645#2739933

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 #134
well obviously. unless the seer knows a wolf or the killers. I meant speak up if you know something. (i thought that was an obvious statement)


Time:2009-09-25 17:31:42 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
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Link:167645#2740189

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Children:#136
#135
maybe he's the seer and doesn't want to out himself



Time:2009-09-25 17:32:37 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2740445

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#136
If he is the Seer, and [info]GiantLaser is a wolf, he's as good as outed himself.


Time:2009-09-25 17:34:28 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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Link:167645#2740701

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 #137
I HOPE not ... if the seer has positively IDed a wolf at this point, then he/ she should come out so we can protect him/ her while we search for the remaining wolves. We can still protect with WITCH - BGUARD and Martye for serveral rounds.


Time:2009-09-25 17:36:58 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#138
If bguard protects me, and I protect the victim, I can reveal the victim, who is a villager, unless the wolves can attack one of thier own ???


Time:2009-09-25 17:38:38 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2741213

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#139
Not only can they, but they've actually done it before. I believe that one is the [info]Parzanese Gambit?


Time:2009-09-25 17:40:13 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
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Link:167645#2741469

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 #140
Auugh! I forgot about that. I certainly meant "bandwagon".


Time:2009-09-25 17:40:31 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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Link:167645#2741725

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#141
well ... wow.

Still, with only 3 wolves left, that seems ... unlikely ?


Time:2009-09-25 17:41:18 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
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Link:167645#2741981

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#142
I at least had some reasons for voting that way... whereas i have no reason at all for [info]stride other than gnat constantly saying she's evil...


Time:2009-09-25 17:43:31 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2742237

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 #143
Why? They'd be a confirmed villager, unless the Seer checked them. They'd be nearly free of suspicion until it was too late for us to do anything. And if they knew you were planning to save the villager attacked tonight, that would make it a very tempting gamble.


Time:2009-09-25 17:43:48 GMT
Author:[info]dragonattack
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Link:167645#2742493

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Children:#148
#144
Yup. You have in fact correctly labeled the [info]Parzanese Gambit. ::shakes fist at Joe::


Time:2009-09-25 17:44:01 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2742749

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Children:#150
#145
if the wolves eat one of thier own won't they show up as dead wolf in the morning?>


Time:2009-09-25 17:44:18 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2743005

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 #146
I'd really like to hear some reasoning for either candidate, or i'll continue [info]abstaining.


Time:2009-09-25 17:46:27 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
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Link:167645#2743261

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#147
Well, you are one of the deciding votes. Right now it seems to be [info]stride and myself. I'm an ordinary villager and I'm willing to die for the good guys, but I think something's up. I sense a last minute-swing toward me close to 11:00 PST. I would certainly appreciate it if you'd swing yours to [info]stride.


Time:2009-09-25 17:47:34 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2743517

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 #148
Damn ... OK - I will save my save for a better shot then ....

Just trying to be as usefull as possible now that I've outed myself.


Time:2009-09-25 17:48:25 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
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#149
I find it suspicious that she is trying to get the SEER to come out so early.


Time:2009-09-25 17:48:29 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2744029

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 #150
unless the "victim" were saved by a special. exactly what i was just proposing ....


Time:2009-09-25 17:48:36 GMT
Author:[info]slojae
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2744285

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 #151
i thought it was just joe's gambit


Time:2009-09-25 17:49:51 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
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Link:167645#2744541

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 #152
Ehhh, the whole thing is a swing either way, whether onto [info]Stride or onto you. I am partial to [info]Cambler reasoning in general, but hesitant to trust it when he can't or won't explain it.


Time:2009-09-25 17:50:02 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
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Link:167645#2744797

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 #153
who's got big balls! I've got big balls!

and for reference, there were only two wolves left the time I pulled the [info]parzanese gambit . . . only two left because I had had one lynched the previous day!


Time:2009-09-25 17:50:46 GMT
Author:[info]hungryandhollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2745053

Parent:#149
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 #154
Same.


Time:2009-09-25 17:52:06 GMT
Author:[info]rustymaggot
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Link:167645#2745309

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#155
UNVOTE [info]ABSTAIN

VOTE [info]GIANTLASER



Time:2009-09-25 17:55:13 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
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#156
I'll admit - that's why I challenged Lamb, but .... still, could just be an overhasty posting.


Time:2009-09-25 17:55:37 GMT
Author:[info]sonicbunny
Subject:well damn
Link:167645#2745821

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#157
okay, unvote [info]logophylia1

vote [info]giantlaser


Time:2009-09-25 17:57:08 GMT
Author:[info]logophylia1
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2746077

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 #158
Wow - last minute bid to tie the vote eh ?

No that I object mind you, but I'd like to hear why after the cut and when we have to vote for tie breaker :)


Time:2009-09-25 17:58:11 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
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Link:167645#2746333

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 #159
I'm sorry to have to do this now.

I am the SEER. Do not lynch me. Protectors, I'll need you tonight.

I do not have useful help to report. My DEVICE, my ... SEEING DEVICE ... revealed the following:

Day 1 - [info]baronlaw - WOLF, later died as the [info]NADER
Day 2 - [info]ophiomancer - villager, proved correct by death
Day 3 - [info]snoopyh42 - villager

I hope to live a few more days, but I cannot do that if you bandwagon on me now. Please change your votes.


Time:2009-09-25 17:58:32 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:Re: well damn
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 #160
I am the SEER. See my post.


Time:2009-09-25 17:58:45 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2746845

Parent:#155
Siblings:#158
Children:(none)
 #161
I am the SEER. See my post.


Time:2009-09-25 17:58:49 GMT
Author:[info]smurfetts_lamb
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2747101

Parent:#156
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Children:(none)
 #162
I'm not the seer. I was just hoping the seer would step up if something was known.

My vote for [info]giantlaser is a hunch only.


Time:2009-09-25 17:59:12 GMT
Author:[info]giantlaser
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2747357

Parent:#11
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 #163
I am the SEER. See my post.


Time:2009-09-25 18:01:10 GMT
Author:[info]millershollow
Subject:(none)
Link:167645#2747869

Parent:(none)
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Children:(none)
 #164
POST CLOSED . . . waiting ten plus minutes to tally votes . . . then announcing the results . . . if a tie happens we go into sudden death two hour run off . . .


Vote History
[info]slojaevote[info]giantlaser2009-09-24 20:01:43 GMT#11
[info]flipperchazvote[info]sonicbunny2009-09-24 21:03:32 GMT#29
[info]flipperchazunvote[info]sonicbunny2009-09-24 21:03:32 GMT#29
[info]sonicbunnyvote[info]faymar2009-09-24 21:20:49 GMT#34
[info]stridevote[info]snoopyh422009-09-24 22:19:36 GMT#38
[info]faymarvote[info]smurfetts_lamb2009-09-24 22:40:59 GMT#40
[info]flipperchazunvote[info]sonicbunny2009-09-24 22:56:27 GMT#42
[info]flipperchazvote[info]abstain2009-09-24 22:56:27 GMT#42
[info]gnatdbugvote[info]stride2009-09-25 01:10:39 GMT#50
[info]dragonattackvote[info]stride2009-09-25 02:09:49 GMT#52
[info]evilbenvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 05:33:12 GMT#60
[info]sonicbunnyvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 06:19:44 GMT#63
[info]sonicbunnyunvote[info]faymar2009-09-25 06:19:44 GMT#63
[info]sonicbunnyvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 06:19:44 GMT#63
[info]smurfetts_lambvote[info]giantlaser2009-09-25 06:34:05 GMT#64
[info]giantlaservote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 08:58:45 GMT#70
[info]faymarvote[info]smurfetts_lamb2009-09-25 09:07:04 GMT#71
[info]hungryandhollowvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 13:59:06 GMT#74
[info]rustymaggotvote[info]abstain2009-09-25 14:09:12 GMT#75
[info]logophylia1vote[info]dragonattack2009-09-25 15:00:38 GMT#77
[info]snoopyh42vote[info]stride2009-09-25 15:22:50 GMT#79
[info]gwydion82vote[info]sonicbunny2009-09-25 16:17:49 GMT#88
[info]giantlaserunvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 16:42:45 GMT#91
[info]giantlaservote[info]stride2009-09-25 16:42:45 GMT#91
[info]hungryandhollowvote[info]abstain2009-09-25 16:44:56 GMT#94
[info]camblervote[info]giantlaser2009-09-25 16:56:42 GMT#104
[info]lorrietvote[info]stride2009-09-25 17:09:34 GMT#119
[info]strideunvote[info]snoopyh422009-09-25 17:10:40 GMT#120
[info]stridevote[info]giantlaser2009-09-25 17:10:40 GMT#120
[info]hungryandhollowvote[info]stride2009-09-25 17:11:06 GMT#122
[info]logophylia1unvote[info]dragonattack2009-09-25 17:25:33 GMT#128
[info]logophylia1vote[info]abstain2009-09-25 17:25:33 GMT#128
[info]hungryandhollowvote[info]abstain2009-09-25 17:28:01 GMT#131
[info]rustymaggotunvote[info]abstain2009-09-25 17:52:06 GMT#155
[info]rustymaggotvote[info]giantlaser2009-09-25 17:52:06 GMT#155
[info]sonicbunnyunvote[info]logophylia12009-09-25 17:55:37 GMT#157
[info]sonicbunnyvote[info]giantlaser2009-09-25 17:55:37 GMT#157
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5 against[info]stride:[info]lorriet [info]gnatdbug [info]dragonattack [info]snoopyh42 [info]giantlaser
3 against[info]abstain:[info]logophylia1 [info]flipperchaz [info]hungryandhollow
1 against[info]smurfetts_lamb:[info]faymar
1 against[info]logophylia1:[info]evilben
1 against[info]sonicbunny:[info]gwydion82
Posted but no vote:[info]creepyduck [info]millershollow [info]ragnarok_now
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