lupusintabula - Day Three

Link:38887 Sat Jan 23 00:16:47 2010

Loud howls came from the edge of town during the night. When morning comes, its obvious that the Winery was the focus of the Werewolves attention in the night. Several barrels lay smashed open, some splattered with the blood of

giantlaser. A stunned silence falls over the assembled mob as they find scattered tarot cards and what could only be a smashed crystal ball.

As they return sadly to the Village Square, the Launderer

gjunell looks around and asks, "Has anyone seen the Baker this morning?"

The disheartened group stops at

amphitrite27's Bakery and finds the door slightly open. Peering in, the Musketeer gasps and back up a few steps. On the floor lies the green swollen remains of a Werewolf, desperately clutching its throat even in death. The Witch has struck true with her poison.

Summary:

giantlaser the SEER is DEAD.

amphitrite27 the WEREWOLF is DEAD, victim of the WITCH's POISON.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:28:39 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#608487	Parent:(none) Siblings:#3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#2	#1
	Admistrative note: gorillashaman, your reader seems to not be picking up the last five posts from yesterday.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:34:04 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#608743	Parent:#1 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#2
	Yeah, it hiccupped. I've fixed the immediate cause, now I'm looking at making sure it doesn't reoccur again.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:34:43 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:Administrative Note 2 Link:38887#608999	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:(none)	#3
	This will be a "long" day, ending whenever I feel like it on Monday.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:36:49 GMT Author:evilben Subject:Hmmmm Link:38887#609255	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:(none)	#4
	No idea who to vote for today. Guess I abstain untill after work tonight when some more interaction has happened.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:46:43 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#609511	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#6	#5
	Sorry I missed yesterday - rehearsal ran late and then I overslept. Interesting that the witch was able to identify a wolf so immediately. Must have been the afflicted? Looking back at giantlaser's statements, I am willing to bet that gjunell is a villager, and it is probably likely that gpeefalt is a wolf. I vote gpeefalt until further notice.

	Time:2006-07-07 18:48:20 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#609767	Parent:#5 Siblings:(none) Children:#15	#6
	I agree, vote gpeefalt. holy shit, we agree on something!

	Time:2006-07-07 19:03:46 GMT Author:perkyevil Subject:(none) Link:38887#610791	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#20	#7
	Sorry gpeefalt, but he did implicate you. Vote gpeefalt

	Time:2006-07-07 19:07:58 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#611559	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#9	#8
	vote gpeefalt, due to seer implication. Also, I think it is neat that one of the wolves was someone high on my thing. I think I'm getting better at this. Also, I have to assume that since the witch did not step forward, that the afflicted was activated on night one. That said, here is my new suspicion list: blackbeardin 52% daedalus4096 46% gpeefalt 37% gjunell 37% parzanese 31% evilben 31% perkyevil 28% the1mouse 38%

	Time:2006-07-07 19:12:42 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#611815	Parent:#8 Siblings:(none) Children:#16	#9
	is the1mouse really 38% and simply out of order or is she much lower?

	Time:2006-07-07 19:15:09 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#612071	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#11	#10
	Well, that was both very good and very bad. At least the witch had a good aim. I'm going to be out of town all weekend without internet access, so I'm simply going to make my vote now to make sure it gets in. Vote chessiekitty Stop Cthulhu Kitty before it's too late!

	Time:2006-07-07 19:19:38 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#612583	Parent:#10 Siblings:(none) Children:#12 #13	#11
	um, she was lynched yesterday . . . I guess you could go back in time though :)

	Time:2006-07-07 19:20:19 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#613095	Parent:#11 Siblings:#13 Children:#22	#12
	Ghost lynching!

	Time:2006-07-07 19:23:06 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#613863	Parent:#11 Siblings:#12 Children:#14 #23	#13
	Err, yeah, exactly. Testing you, that's it. I was just testing you all... So, uh, unvote chessiekitty and vote evilben, 'cause he's been far too agreeable so far.

	Time:2006-07-07 19:25:18 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#614887	Parent:#13 Siblings:#23 Children:(none)	#14
	he's my next choice . . .

	Time:2006-07-07 19:25:34 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#615143	Parent:#6 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#15
	Heh - you keep agreeing with me and I might start to worry. :p

	Time:2006-07-07 20:27:17 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#617191	Parent:#9 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#16
	That and the extra bold are me trying to post as I run out the door for lunch. the1mouse really should be 38%, and placed accordingly higher in the list.

	Time:2006-07-07 20:31:47 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:rules clarification? Link:38887#617703	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#18	#17
	If amphitrite27 had been the afflicted, and she had been activated on night one, would her death have shown up as simply "wolf" or would it have shown up as "afflicted"?

	Time:2006-07-07 20:34:28 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:Re: rules clarification? Link:38887#618215	Parent:#17 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#18
	She would show up as WEREWOLF. AFFLICTED are only revealed after the game is over.

	Time:2006-07-07 20:35:34 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#618471	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:(none)	#19
	Also, check out http://cuddlepuddle.org/~adam/ljgames/lupusintabula/143.html#2318 giantlaser seems to imply gjunell is a normal villager. It makes sense, given their personal histories, that that seer would try to spy on that player early.

	Time:2006-07-07 20:47:48 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#618983	Parent:#7 Siblings:(none) Children:#21 #25	#20
	I have no idea why he would implicate my if he had scanned me, as I wouldn't show up as a wolf in any way shape or form. Since the witch still has her saving potion I am going to reveal myself. I am the other seer. amphitrite27 was the afflicted as I scanned her on day 2 and she came up villager. parzanese is a wolf. vote parzanese

	Time:2006-07-07 20:48:36 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#619239	Parent:#20 Siblings:#25 Children:#26	#21
	By day 2 I mean she was the second person I scanned.

	Time:2006-07-07 20:58:33 GMT Author:maniakes Subject:(none) Link:38887#619751	Parent:#12 Siblings:(none) Children:#34	#22
	vote chessiekitty!

	Time:2006-07-07 21:03:45 GMT Author:chessiekitty Subject:Oh no you didn't! Link:38887#620263	Parent:#13 Siblings:#14 Children:#24	#23
	Do you know what's worse than Cthulhu Kitty? A Cthulhu Kitty that's pissed off because someone is trying to kill her after she was already lynched! You are so on my list... (cue freaky horror movie music)

	Time:2006-07-07 21:06:08 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:Re: Oh no you didn't! Link:38887#620519	Parent:#23 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#24
	I just forgot! Please don't devour me!

	Time:2006-07-07 21:06:57 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#620775	Parent:#20 Siblings:#21 Children:#51	#25
	I'll buy that for a dollar. unvote gpeefalt vote parzanese Besides - he's being all nice to me and stuff. It's freaking me out. :p

	Time:2006-07-07 21:16:24 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#621543	Parent:#21 Siblings:(none) Children:#27 #28 #29	#26
	I hate to rain on your parade, but unless Lupus in Tabula has a different interpretation of the rules than Miller's Hollow, your account of events isn't possible. See, I learned the hard way in a previous game that if the Afflicted is scryed on the same night he/she is turned, the Seer detects a wolf, not a villager. That means that if you had scried on Amphitrite27 at the time you say you did, you would have detected a wolf. I'm now convinced that you, sir, are full of it. Unvote evilben, vote gpeefalt

	Time:2006-07-07 21:21:25 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#622055	Parent:#26 Siblings:#28 #29 Children:(none)	#27
	If this can be confirmed by the game master please, I will change my vote back.

	Time:2006-07-07 21:21:47 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#622311	Parent:#26 Siblings:#27 #29 Children:(none)	#28
	It's true. I scryed amphitrite27 the night no one died, and she came up villager. I would ask that lupusintabula clarify this rule, so that your judgment isn't clouded.

	Time:2006-07-07 21:22:38 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#622567	Parent:#26 Siblings:#27 #28 Children:#30 #31 #32	#29
	If a SEER scrys an AFFLICTED on the night he is changed, then the results are undefined. The SEER may detect either a WEREWOLF or a VILLAGER. Apologies for any rules consfusion.

	Time:2006-07-07 21:25:38 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#622823	Parent:#29 Siblings:#31 #32 Children:#35	#30
	Thank you for the clarification. What I have stated is the truth.

	Time:2006-07-07 21:25:52 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#623079	Parent:#29 Siblings:#30 #32 Children:#33	#31
	Undefined? You're seriously saying you flipped a damn coin to determine the result of his "scry"?

	Time:2006-07-07 21:25:54 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#623335	Parent:#29 Siblings:#30 #31 Children:#37	#32
	Ok. I keep my vote as-is then, for the time being.

	Time:2006-07-07 21:32:48 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#623847	Parent:#31 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#33
	Or maybe it's a timing issue. Damn race conditions...

	Time:2006-07-07 21:39:40 GMT Author:chessiekitty Subject:(none) Link:38887#624359	Parent:#22 Siblings:(none) Children:#41 #43	#34
	vote maniakes!

	Time:2006-07-07 21:41:10 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#624615	Parent:#30 Siblings:(none) Children:#36 #38	#35
	Ok, I'll play along. If parzanese is not a wolf, then we know for sure that you are and you get lynched tomorrow. unvote gpeefalt vote parzanese

	Time:2006-07-07 21:49:07 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#624871	Parent:#35 Siblings:#38 Children:(none)	#36
	Although I feel compelled to point out that if amphitrite27 IS the afflicted, that it means all my previous suspition calculations are crap. But what else is new?

	Time:2006-07-07 21:51:22 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#625127	Parent:#32 Siblings:(none) Children:#39 #40	#37
	I wouldn't. It's far more likely that Joel forgot the rule, and is covering by saying it is "undefined".

	Time:2006-07-07 21:56:47 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#625383	Parent:#35 Siblings:#36 Children:(none)	#38
	I accept those terms.

	Time:2006-07-07 22:06:58 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:! Link:38887#625639	Parent:#37 Siblings:#40 Children:#44	#39
	Vote gorillashaman

	Time:2006-07-07 22:16:45 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#625895	Parent:#37 Siblings:#39 Children:#42	#40
	I meant that I'm keeping my second vote... the one for parzanese. Are you saying I should not do that?

	Time:2006-07-07 22:17:25 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#626151	Parent:#34 Siblings:#43 Children:(none)	#41
	SOMEBODY CALL THE GHOST HUNTERS! WE HAVE A RESIDUAL HAUNTING!

	Time:2006-07-07 22:39:11 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:Re: Official Lupus In Tabula ruling Link:38887#626407	Parent:#40 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#42
	I was clearly confused. I thought you meant you were keeping your gpeefalt vote. I think we should lynch parzanese.

	Time:2006-07-07 22:44:26 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#626663	Parent:#34 Siblings:#41 Children:#45	#43
	check your vote; parzanese is the man to lynch these days

	Time:2006-07-07 22:44:58 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:Re: ! Link:38887#626919	Parent:#39 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#44
	dork

	Time:2006-07-07 22:46:46 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#627175	Parent:#43 Siblings:(none) Children:#46	#45
	Did you forget that she's dead as well?

	Time:2006-07-07 23:21:46 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#627431	Parent:#45 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#46
	A vote is a vote, right? :) :) :)

	Time:2006-07-07 23:37:48 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#627687	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#48 #52 #63	#47
	Here's a slightly more scary thought... parzanese and gpeefalt are both wolves. We lynch parzanese, and discover he's a wolf. This gives the witch the thought that gpeefalt really is the seer. The wolves eat gpeefalt (typical parzanese style gambit), who is saved by the witch. gpeefalt then strings us along until we're all eaten and lynched. The real seer doesn't want to come out just yet, because they're still looking for that last wolf. And of course from that more "wine in front of me" arguments ensue. In any even, the wolves have been INCREDIBLY lucky this game. Afflicted on night one and a Seer on night two.

	Time:2006-07-08 01:39:28 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#628199	Parent:#47 Siblings:#52 #63 Children:#49	#48
	If I'm a wolf, I can't be eaten.

	Time:2006-07-08 02:41:52 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#628455	Parent:#48 Siblings:(none) Children:#54	#49
	Not true, the GM can confirm.

	Time:2006-07-08 02:43:20 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#628711	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#55	#50
	give me a break . . . you're not going to believe this crap . . . what else can a wolf do at this point but claim to be seer? he was outed by a KNOWN seer, giantlaser, and now has everyone ganging up on him . . . the only recourse he has left is to claim seerdom and try and take me out thus benefiting the two remaining wolves (since it seems we all are in favor that the afflicted has been found) . . . as we know from past wolves killing me seems to be one of their highest priorities in these games . . . these are the facts: a KNOWN seer, giantlaser voted for gpeefalt . . . I, an unknown and past hated enemy of wolves everywhere have so far not voted for a single known villager . . . a claimed seer, gpeefalt is now trying to state that I am a wolf to save his skinny hide . . . give me a break, I'm not buying it . . . nor should you . . .

	Time:2006-07-08 02:44:06 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#628967	Parent:#25 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#51
	I've been nice because I'm tired of spending half my work day bickering with you on day one before I have you lynched :)

	Time:2006-07-08 02:50:43 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#629223	Parent:#47 Siblings:#48 #63 Children:#53	#52
	if you're willing to believe gpeefalt, then the seers have been incredibly lucky as well, his first two scans being wolves or supposed afflicted . . .

	Time:2006-07-08 02:59:10 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#629479	Parent:#52 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#53
	Question for the GM: Did the seers get to spy on night zero?

	Time:2006-07-08 04:04:56 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#629735	Parent:#49 Siblings:(none) Children:#56	#54
	That seems stupid and wrong.

	Time:2006-07-08 04:21:20 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#629991	Parent:#50 Siblings:(none) Children:#62 #74	#55
	Just because giantlaser picked me does not mean he scanned me. Most likely he scanned a villager and is guessing. I scanned parzanese as a wolf. That must mean he is either a wolf or Ralph Nader. If the latter, my apologies.

	Time:2006-07-08 05:52:20 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#630247	Parent:#54 Siblings:(none) Children:#81	#56
	Werewolves can eat other Werewolves. "The man was cheatin' at cards so I had to do him in." -Forbidden Zone

	Time:2006-07-08 07:14:26 GMT Author:evilben Subject:(none) Link:38887#630503	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#58	#57
	Eh. seems fairly cut and dry at this point. Don't think Joe's a werewolf. Call it a gut feeling (of course, I could be wrong). VOTE GPEEFAULT

	Time:2006-07-08 14:22:28 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#631015	Parent:#57 Siblings:(none) Children:#60 #61	#58
	At this point I think they're both wolves.

	Time:2006-07-08 14:48:07 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#631271	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#65 #66	#59
	btw, here's my revised suspition list. (insert typical caveat that this is here in case I die, not to convince anyone of anything right now)(also, note that even I'm not voting according to these numbers) blackbeardin 56% daedalus4096 43% gjunell 41% parzanese 35% the1mouse 34% gpeefalt 32% perkyevil 32% evilben 26%

	Time:2006-07-08 15:42:13 GMT Author:evilben Subject:(none) Link:38887#631527	Parent:#58 Siblings:#61 Children:(none)	#60
	Hmmm. you may be right.

	Time:2006-07-08 17:47:57 GMT Author:the1mouse Subject:(none) Link:38887#631783	Parent:#58 Siblings:#60 Children:#64 #73	#61
	At this point I think you're all wolves. Can I vote for everybody?

	Time:2006-07-08 17:48:27 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#632039	Parent:#55 Siblings:#74 Children:#72	#62
	hey look a polite wolf . . .

	Time:2006-07-08 17:50:04 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#632295	Parent:#47 Siblings:#48 #52 Children:(none)	#63
	hey pull the stunt once, shame on me, pull the stunt twice shame on you :)

	Time:2006-07-08 17:53:31 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#632551	Parent:#61 Siblings:#73 Children:#82	#64
	well gpeefalt is obviously a wolf because giantlaser voted for him I'm obviously a wolf because gpeefalt is obviously the seer and he supposedly scanned me you're obviously a wolf because you've been quieter than normal and haven't involved yourself with our usual bickering evilben is obviously a wolf because as chessiekitty stated before dying, he's been acting different gorrilashaman is obviously a wolf because he's still alive, and no respectful wolf would leave him alive perkyevil is um, hmm, obviously a quiet wolf, along with gjunell, and blackbeardin daedalus4096 is just confused :)

	Time:2006-07-08 17:58:43 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#632807	Parent:#59 Siblings:#66 Children:(none)	#65
	ok I get: perkyevil 30% maniakes 0% evilben 31% daedalus4096 30% gorillashaman 39% gpeefalt 31% blackbeardin 39% chessiekitty 0% amphitrite27 100% parzanese 22% gjunell 39% the1mouse 39% giantlaser 0% hmm, will have to refine this more.

	Time:2006-07-08 18:02:53 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#633063	Parent:#59 Siblings:#65 Children:#68	#66
	ok after using your fuzzy logic stuff, my results are now: amphitrite27 100% blackbeardin 48% the1mouse 48% evilben 37% gpeefalt 37% perkyevil 34% daedalus4096 34% parzanese 23% gorillashaman 20% gjunell 20% giantlaser 0% maniakes 0% chessiekitty 0%

	Time:2006-07-08 18:36:06 GMT Author:gjunell Subject:(none) Link:38887#633319	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:(none)	#67
	VOTE GPEEFAULT The Launderer, being suffused with the vapor of Lye and scared out of his mortal skin, feels a good consensus forming and joins in readily. But what if we're wrong? The death of an innocent would weigh heavily upon his soul. But not as heavily as a hairy clawed arm upon his opening chest.

	Time:2006-07-08 18:43:59 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#633575	Parent:#66 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#68
	fuzzy logic was used on the person I believe to be the witch (by the way you left lots of clues) to set them to 75% normal, fuzzy logic was also used on gjunell to set him to 75% normal because I don't want his kids to go hungry :) I find it interesting however that blackbeardin is on top of both mine and gorrilashaman's results . . . but this could just be because he hasn't said much and abstained the other day . . .

	Time:2006-07-08 21:37:44 GMT Author:blackbeardin Subject:(none) Link:38887#634343	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #75 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#70 #88	#69
	I'm not so sure that both parzanese and gpeefalt are wolves. Unless there's telepathy in this game, they would have had to set up that strategy last night, without knowing for certain that giantlaser was a seer which seems a unlikely.

	Time:2006-07-08 21:49:48 GMT Author:blackbeardin Subject:(none) Link:38887#634599	Parent:#69 Siblings:#88 Children:#71	#70
	should have said "...seems a little unlikely" I'm a little more inclined to think parzanese is a wolf but, given his status, I don't think giantlaser would've implicated someone he was unsure about two days in a row. So, I'll have to vote gpeefalt.

	Time:2006-07-08 23:49:23 GMT Author:blackbeardin Subject:(none) Link:38887#634855	Parent:#70 Siblings:(none) Children:#90	#71
	Strike that, I forgot giantlaser didn't post on day 1. unvote gpeefalt . I abstain for the moment(though doing so seems to incur the wrath of gorillashaman and parzanese's statistics).

	Time:2006-07-09 01:06:39 GMT Author:gpeefalt Subject:(none) Link:38887#635111	Parent:#62 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#72
	Hey look, an impolite wolf.

	Time:2006-07-09 03:28:27 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#635367	Parent:#61 Siblings:#64 Children:(none)	#73
	yes, but only one at a time.

	Time:2006-07-09 03:31:53 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#635623	Parent:#55 Siblings:#62 Children:(none)	#74
	Dude, he CLEARLY implicates you.

	Time:2006-07-09 03:44:28 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#635879	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #78 #84 #87 #91 Children:#76	#75
	Ok peoples voting for gpeefalt, you're being silly. Here's why... 10 players left, 3 of whom are wolves. Assume he is the seer. Which way are the wolves going to throw the dogpile? gpeefalt's claim that parzanese is a wolf is EASILY testable. parzanese has NOT stood up and claimed any specialist role, which tells me at worst he's safe to lynch. If we lynch parzanese and it turns out he's RALPH NADER, then we have a guarantee that gpeefalt is the seer. If we lynch parzanese and it turns out he's a villager then we have a guarantee that gpeefalt is a wolf. If parzanese is a wolf, the seer has an extra night of spying, regardless of whether the seer actually is gpeefalt or not. Also, historically, the first person to stand up and say "don't lynch me, I'm the seer" has (shock and surprise) turned out to be telling the TRUTH. So you've got two choices here: lynch gpeefalt: This risks LOSING THE SEER. Hell, I'll admit I don't trust him, but there is the outside chance he's telling the truth. lynch parzanese: This risks losing NOTHING, and potentially confirms or strengthens our knowledge about who the seer really is. At the very least it GUARANTEES that the seer gets an extra night of scrying no matter who he is!

	Time:2006-07-09 15:22:31 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#636391	Parent:#75 Siblings:(none) Children:#77	#76
	I take it all back. The most likely scenario is (I think) that gpeefalt is a wolf. Tyler would not have implicated him two days running otherwise. unvote parzanese vote gpeefalt

	Time:2006-07-09 15:50:55 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#636647	Parent:#76 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#77
	Here's my suspition list if it turns out gpeefalt is a wolf: blackbeardin 52% perkyevil 48% gjunell 41% daedalus4096 31% evilben 28% the1mouse 0% parzanese 0%

	Time:2006-07-09 16:09:45 GMT Author:gjunell Subject:(none) Link:38887#636903	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #84 #87 #91 Children:#79 #80	#78
	gorillashaman says there are 10 players, 3 of whom are wolves. But "amphitrite27 the WEREWOLF is DEAD, victim of the WITCH's POISON." So there are two wolves, not three.

	Time:2006-07-09 19:26:02 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#637159	Parent:#78 Siblings:#80 Children:(none)	#79
	Greggo... There were three wolves and one afflicted at the start of the game. On night one, nobody died. There are only three possibilities here: a) the witch was attacked, and chose to use her healing potion on herself b) the afflicted was attacked, and converted t oa werewolf c) a normal villager was attacked, and the with chose to save them If (a) were true, then the wolves would know who the witch was. At that point, the witch should have come out, because the wolves would know who the witch was and there is no point in staying hidden. No person announced themselves as a witch on day two, therefore I must assume (a) is not true. If (c) were true, then the normal villager attacked should have come out. The witch could confirm or deny the veracity of the claim. A wolf would not falsely claim they had been attacked, because the witch would know they were lying, and would poison them the following night. Since no normal villager came out on day two, I must assume (c) is false. This leaves only (b); that the afflicted was attacked and converted to a werewolf, giving us a total of 4 werewolves. The corollary to this is that the witch still has a healing potion left, and this is confirmed by the fact that she has not yet come out. Why the witch chose to poison amphitrite27 on night 2 is a mystery to me. I looked and looked, but couldn't find anything particularly wolfy in her behavior. She did show up as one of the top three on my "susptions" list, but I'm not convinced that would be enough for the witch to choose her to poison. At any rate, if (b) is false, then there are only two wolves left, and the witch has used both potions, in which case there is no harm now in the witch coming out. But she has not yet come out, which indicates to me that she still has a potion left and (b) must be true. SO... three wolves plus the afflicted minus one wolf leaves... three wolves.

	Time:2006-07-09 19:27:25 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#637415	Parent:#78 Siblings:#79 Children:#83	#80
	Also note that none of the experienced players are disputing the theory that the afflicted has been activated.

	Time:2006-07-10 00:46:18 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#637671	Parent:#56 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#81
	The caveat to this being that if there's a tie on the dinner vote, they don't eat anybody. Really, though, there's rarely a reason to try anything like this unless a wolf/villager lover pair is in play.

	Time:2006-07-10 00:48:47 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#637927	Parent:#64 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#82
	Hey! ...What were we talking about?

	Time:2006-07-10 00:51:55 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#638183	Parent:#80 Siblings:(none) Children:#85	#83
	Just because I don't dispute it doesn't mean I accept it as gospel. It's highly probable, but far from a certainty.

	Time:2006-07-10 04:25:33 GMT Author:parzanese Subject:(none) Link:38887#638439	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #87 #91 Children:(none)	#84
	Well I'm going to be on the road all day tomorrow morning heading down to LA, so will probably miss the lynching . . . that being said, please don't lynch me :) as to coming out as a special . . . why? why would I? and why should I? both the witch and the "seer" haven't come out, and really there's no reason for them to anyway, it'd just paint a target on them and would open things up to wolf imitation, especially since the witch no longer has any poison . . . additionally you may remember when I was a mason, it took me forever to come out as a special, and I've claimed to be several specials in other games such as the seer (and other roles) in the last game . . . so I see no reason why claiming to be a special would help in anyway . . . so have fun tomorrow morning and hope that I don't get stuck in a lot of traffic . . .

	Time:2006-07-10 04:40:58 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#638951	Parent:#83 Siblings:(none) Children:#86	#85
	If you've got a better theory, I'd love to hear it.

	Time:2006-07-10 08:30:29 GMT Author:daedalus4096 Subject:(none) Link:38887#639207	Parent:#85 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#86
	Nope, just keeping my options open. After all, we all know that the only certainties in this game are the obituaries. :)

	Time:2006-07-10 14:54:02 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#639463	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #91 Children:#89	#87
	fricken indecision unvote gpeefalt vote parzanese

	Time:2006-07-10 15:51:36 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#639719	Parent:#69 Siblings:#70 Children:(none)	#88
	This is a "no telepathy" game, as is my default.

	Time:2006-07-10 15:53:54 GMT Author:gorillashaman Subject:(none) Link:38887#639975	Parent:#87 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#89
	I'm more inclined to believe gpeefalt; he's been voting for parzanese since day one.

	Time:2006-07-10 16:49:37 GMT Author:blackbeardin Subject:(none) Link:38887#640487	Parent:#71 Siblings:(none) Children:(none)	#90
	vote parzanese. I'm a little more inclined to believe gpeefalt because a wolf in the face of a seer implication would be more likely to go with an "I must be Ralph Nader" defense. I'm not sure why giantlaser implicated him, but I'm guessing he hadn't found a real wolf yet and his reason for voting for him were just as he said in his post.

	Time:2006-07-10 18:03:03 GMT Author:lupusintabula Subject:(none) Link:38887#640999	Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #4 #5 #7 #8 #10 #17 #19 #47 #50 #57 #59 #67 #69 #75 #78 #84 #87 Children:(none)	#91
	Post closed.

Vote History

evilben	vote	abstain	2006-07-07 18:36:49 GMT	#4
the1mouse	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 18:46:43 GMT	#5
parzanese	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 18:48:20 GMT	#6
perkyevil	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 19:03:46 GMT	#7
gorillashaman	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 19:07:58 GMT	#8
daedalus4096	vote	chessiekitty	2006-07-07 19:15:09 GMT	#10
daedalus4096	unvote	chessiekitty	2006-07-07 19:23:06 GMT	#13
daedalus4096	vote	evilben	2006-07-07 19:23:06 GMT	#13
gpeefalt	vote	parzanese	2006-07-07 20:47:48 GMT	#20
maniakes	vote	chessiekitty	2006-07-07 20:58:33 GMT	#22
the1mouse	unvote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 21:06:57 GMT	#25
the1mouse	vote	parzanese	2006-07-07 21:06:57 GMT	#25
daedalus4096	unvote	evilben	2006-07-07 21:16:24 GMT	#26
daedalus4096	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 21:16:24 GMT	#26
chessiekitty	vote	maniakes	2006-07-07 21:39:40 GMT	#34
gorillashaman	unvote	gpeefalt	2006-07-07 21:41:10 GMT	#35
gorillashaman	vote	parzanese	2006-07-07 21:41:10 GMT	#35
lupusintabula	vote	gorillashaman	2006-07-07 22:06:58 GMT	#39
evilben	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-08 07:14:26 GMT	#57	gpeefault
gjunell	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-08 18:36:06 GMT	#67	gpeefault
blackbeardin	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-08 21:49:48 GMT	#70
blackbeardin	unvote	gpeefalt	2006-07-08 23:49:23 GMT	#71
blackbeardin	vote	abstain	2006-07-08 23:49:23 GMT	#71
gorillashaman	unvote	parzanese	2006-07-09 15:22:31 GMT	#76
gorillashaman	vote	gpeefalt	2006-07-09 15:22:31 GMT	#76
gorillashaman	unvote	gpeefalt	2006-07-10 14:54:02 GMT	#87
gorillashaman	vote	parzanese	2006-07-10 14:54:02 GMT	#87
blackbeardin	vote	parzanese	2006-07-10 16:49:37 GMT	#90

Vote Summary

5 against	gpeefalt	:	gjunell parzanese perkyevil evilben daedalus4096
4 against	parzanese	:	the1mouse gpeefalt gorillashaman blackbeardin
1 against	chessiekitty	:	maniakes
1 against	gorillashaman	:	lupusintabula
1 against	maniakes	:	chessiekitty
Posted but no vote		:

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posts by	gorillashaman	:	(27)	#2 #8 #16 #17 #19 #35 #36 #37 #42 #43 #44 #46 #47 #49 #53 #58 #59 #73 #74 #75 #76 #77 #79 #80 #85 #87 #89
posts by	parzanese	:	(14)	#6 #9 #11 #14 #50 #51 #52 #62 #63 #64 #65 #66 #68 #84
posts by	lupusintabula	:	(10)	#1 #3 #12 #18 #29 #39 #45 #56 #88 #91
posts by	gpeefalt	:	(10)	#20 #21 #28 #30 #33 #38 #48 #54 #55 #72
posts by	daedalus4096	:	(9)	#10 #13 #24 #26 #31 #81 #82 #83 #86
posts by	the1mouse	:	(8)	#5 #15 #25 #27 #32 #40 #41 #61
posts by	blackbeardin	:	(4)	#69 #70 #71 #90
posts by	evilben	:	(3)	#4 #57 #60
posts by	gjunell	:	(2)	#67 #78
posts by	chessiekitty	:	(2)	#23 #34
posts by	perkyevil	:	(1)	#7
posts by	maniakes	:	(1)	#22

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