millershollow - End of Game |
| Link:154455 Sat Jan 23 00:18:22 2010 |
| Time:2007-07-30 18:36:46 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2410327 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#3 #5 #6 #7 #9 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:#2 |
#1 | |
| Woohoo! Congrats! | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 18:41:40 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2411863 | Parent:#1 Siblings:(none) Children:#22 |
#2 | |
| I knew I should have lynched you. ;) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 18:47:25 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2413143 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #5 #6 #7 #9 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:#4 |
#3 | |
| Nicely done! That was seriously fun. When I was confused about my role, I was being serious. I hadn't seen Joe's post so I played the first day as an *actually* clueless villager. I was hoping to be the afflicted from the start and after the SEER scanned me and the wolves had to eat me that night, I figured my odds were pretty good if I could just live through the day. Who knew that one of the wolves was trying to get rid of other wolves? Well played. When's the next one? I've played the live version a bunch, but almost always as the GM. It's quite difficult as a player. Oh, and | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 18:49:52 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2413655 | Parent:#3 Siblings:(none) Children:#26 |
#4 | |
| When's the next one? I probably have a business trip probably in the middle of August. Then there's Labor Day which means conventions and Burning Man. So maybe September 10th? | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 19:10:31 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2415191 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #6 #7 #9 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:#8 #10 |
#5 | |
| Oh, and after reading the Watcher posts now that the game is over, I'm not THAT bad at figuring out who the wolves are. I was, as | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 19:11:48 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2415703 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #7 #9 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:(none) |
#6 | |
| AWESOME game! | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 19:13:25 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2415959 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #9 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:(none) |
#7 | |
| Lots of fun. Wish the next one started tomorrow :p | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 19:33:59 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2416215 | Parent:#5 Siblings:#10 Children:(none) |
#8 | |
| Thank you :-) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 19:41:35 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2416727 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #7 #11 #12 #37 #47 Children:(none) |
#9 | |
| Heh, that would have sucked if the seer would have spied me! | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:07:46 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2416983 | Parent:#5 Siblings:#8 Children:#13 #14 |
#10 | |
| I should have realized you were a fifth column as soon as they went for | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:17:23 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2417239 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #7 #9 #12 #37 #47 Children:#17 #44 |
#11 | |
| Yes it was definitely fun just watching and wanting to scream "NO YOU IDIOT, YOU'RE (VOTING) THE WRONG WAY" Hopefully next time i LIVE PAST DAY ONE even if i am acting wolfy... i think adams gonna get it day one, villiger or wolf... he's just to dangerous to take for granted. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:30:17 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2417495 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #7 #9 #11 #37 #47 Children:#16 #18 |
#12 | |
| This was pretty fun. I was more active in this game than the previous ones I'd played. And I think I did pretty well. I just have to remember not to let my feelings about people from the real world impact how I play the game. *glares at Good game, folks. Except you, H&H. You I still hate! :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:38:28 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2417751 | Parent:#10 Siblings:#14 Children:#15 |
#13 | |
| Dude...sorry about fingering you...thought you were a wolf. I suck. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:53:51 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2418007 | Parent:#10 Siblings:#13 Children:#27 |
#14 | |
| Thanks! Great job figuring it out. It looks like not even the Watchers had caught on before you did, and they had significantly more info. I'm just glad you caught on a day too late :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:54:56 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2418263 | Parent:#13 Siblings:(none) Children:#19 |
#15 | |
| don't beat yourself up. Everyone here has gone after someone they thought was the wolf, that later turned out to be a villager. Hell, I was the deciding vote in the last round of my first game, and I got tricked by the wolf into handing him the victory. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 20:56:07 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2418519 | Parent:#12 Siblings:#18 Children:(none) |
#16 | |
| I figured I might earn some hatred for this game, so I don't blame you :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:08:22 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2418775 | Parent:#11 Siblings:#44 Children:(none) |
#17 | |
| Just remember, for the most part, don't carry behaviors over from game to game. They're all different, and we're all smart enough to realize that play styles change based on circumstances. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:20:27 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2419031 | Parent:#12 Siblings:#16 Children:#21 #24 |
#18 | |
| It's actually a lot of work to be a wolf and look like a villager. I was amazed the last few days that people were voting for | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:28:46 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2419287 | Parent:#15 Siblings:(none) Children:#20 |
#19 | |
| Heh, you have no idea how bad it was to die and realize that GS was the wolf and you were all going to die. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:31:46 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2419543 | Parent:#19 Siblings:(none) Children:#23 #25 |
#20 | |
| I'm | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:32:57 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2419799 | Parent:#18 Siblings:#24 Children:#33 |
#21 | |
| I'd like to think I helped divert suspicion off of you. That's the only reason I voted for you early on, so my change-of-heart might look more convincing. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:36:41 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2420055 | Parent:#2 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#22 | |
| Yes. :) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:37:44 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2420311 | Parent:#20 Siblings:#25 Children:#28 |
#23 | |
| I know, but you were backing the wolf and so set that he was a villager. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:40:15 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2420567 | Parent:#18 Siblings:#21 Children:(none) |
#24 | |
| You were being pretty quiet, leaving me not much to go on. He was getting pushier and pushier. It seemed wrong. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:41:24 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2420823 | Parent:#20 Siblings:#23 Children:#29 |
#25 | |
| Dude...you still died. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:41:54 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2421079 | Parent:#4 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#26 | |
| Sounds good. I'm taking a year off from the Man. Count me in for the next round. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:42:38 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2421335 | Parent:#14 Siblings:(none) Children:#30 |
#27 | |
| You almost blew it with the comment re: wanting a lover's victory. Had either of us picked that up a day earlier, things would have gone differently. But isn't that always the case...if only this, if only that. We're all dead or wolf-supper now. I'm just glad I was spared the indignity of being eaten. Unlike you. ;) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:46:07 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2421591 | Parent:#23 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#28 | |
| I knew | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:46:23 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2421847 | Parent:#25 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#29 | |
| Yea, but he shouldn't feel bad for my death, as it's my own fault. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:49:57 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2422103 | Parent:#27 Siblings:(none) Children:#31 |
#30 | |
| I know, it was a risky move, but as an exposed villager I was dead meat unless I could get As for being eaten, i accept it as the necessary sacrifice to see my poor Lovers finally win one... besides, I've got a 50/50 chance of surviving the cliffhanger ending :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:50:56 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2422359 | Parent:#30 Siblings:(none) Children:#32 |
#31 | |
| you can't win all the coin flips :) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 21:53:41 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2422615 | Parent:#31 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#32 | |
| He was wolf pate; we all know it! (Bitter? Me????) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 22:03:32 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2422871 | Parent:#21 Siblings:(none) Children:#34 |
#33 | |
| Wow, you really thought that through well. Ok, was there a cohesive wolf strategy? You kept us all off balance so long that there was too little information. Well done. The fact that there were seven evils or potential evils (4 wolves, Sorcerer, Afflicted and Dark Cupid) made the likelihood for party wipe pretty high. | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 22:08:31 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2423127 | Parent:#33 Siblings:(none) Children:#35 |
#34 | |
| I'd call myself more of a Wild Card than an Evil. If the lovers had died, I would have gone for a villager victory. I was really trying to hunt down the wolves that weren't | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 22:51:32 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2423639 | Parent:#34 Siblings:(none) Children:#36 |
#35 | |
| At what point did you know he was a wolf? | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 23:06:17 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2423895 | Parent:#35 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#36 | |
| I started suspecting after a few days, but I was watching both of them so closely for signs of wolfishness - and I wanted one of them to be a wolf so bad, so there'd be a chance for Lover Victory - that I thought I might be reading too much into it. Then around Day 6 or 7 I was almost positive he was a wolf - he said something about Cupid and the Lovers, I'd have to go back and re-read to see exactly what - and the speed with which he attacked you as the Afflicted confirmed it. There were too many players still alive who would immediately realize you were the Afflicted - it was too obvious. If any of the experienced players were wolves, at least one of them would head the dogpile against you to set themselves up as a likely villager. I emailed | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 23:26:40 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2424151 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #7 #9 #11 #12 #47 Children:#38 |
#37 | |
| Even though us other wolves were "betrayed", it was still a lot of fun! Next time I'll have to get some sort of strategy going. ;) | |||
| Time:2007-07-30 23:53:58 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2424407 | Parent:#37 Siblings:(none) Children:#39 #42 |
#38 | |
| Scarily, I think the non-strategy actually worked better. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 00:15:53 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2424663 | Parent:#38 Siblings:#42 Children:#40 |
#39 | |
| The thing is that most strategies only work once. By the time the next game starts we'll have a dozen ways to counter the Dragon Attack. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 00:24:09 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2424919 | Parent:#39 Siblings:(none) Children:#41 #43 |
#40 | |
| Ok, let's get started. Assume that the Dragon Attack is for the wolves to kill the top voted person that was not killed. The obvious counter is to let this continue until the wolves don't kill someone, then assume that they left a wolf alone and lynch them. The obvious use of this from a wolf perspective is to try the DA for a few days, then skip a day and let the villagers take out the poor sap that they missed. This can turn into a "wine in front of me" problem. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 00:36:44 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2425175 | Parent:#40 Siblings:#43 Children:(none) |
#41 | |
| So what we do is try and get 3 or more suspects each day, and the Seer spies on people who AREN'T suspects. At least that way when they come out, they can give us some verified villagers if nothing else. Those would be my initial thoughts on it, though I'm sure some of the other players can come up with much better counter-attacks. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 01:49:49 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2425943 | Parent:#38 Siblings:#39 Children:(none) |
#42 | |
| except for the Lovers of course. :P | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 02:45:11 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2426199 | Parent:#40 Siblings:#41 Children:(none) |
#43 | |
| I'm not sure the "Dragon Attack" worked exactly(sure it left the villagers confused, but it didn't really marginalize the seer). ( | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 14:23:56 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2426455 | Parent:#11 Siblings:#17 Children:#45 |
#44 | |
| i agree, whack adam first thing. hes too dangerous. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 15:01:14 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2426711 | Parent:#44 Siblings:(none) Children:#46 |
#45 | |
| But if he's a Villager, that's a good thing. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 15:16:26 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2426967 | Parent:#45 Siblings:(none) Children:#48 #49 |
#46 | |
| cant be sure. and he really whoops us up when hes a wolf. id rather have him be the first blind lynching of the game. id want no chance whatsoever that he was a living wolf. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 16:16:27 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2427223 | Parent:(none) Siblings:#1 #3 #5 #6 #7 #9 #11 #12 #37 Children:#50 |
#47 | |
| Well, it's not the first game that has been thrown to the wolves by villagers, but it's the first time that it has worked. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 16:29:26 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2427479 | Parent:#46 Siblings:#49 Children:(none) |
#48 | |
| vote | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 16:50:39 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2427735 | Parent:#46 Siblings:#48 Children:#51 |
#49 | |
| but where does that stop? I mean, you can't kill every cunning player. Anyone who is a good villager is a dangerous wolf. | |||
| Time:2007-07-31 16:51:15 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2427991 | Parent:#47 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#50 | |
| What do you mean? | |||
| Time:2007-08-01 04:46:27 GMT Author: Subject:(none) Link:154455#2428247 | Parent:#49 Siblings:(none) Children:(none) |
#51 | |
| And vice versa, as we saw, this game. | |||
| vote | 2007-07-31 16:29:26 GMT | #48 |
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